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Post by Murph on Dec 2, 2007 17:28:30 GMT -6
Posted this some days ago in the News section. Since then have been curious about the wall. Went back to Nehemiah and started reading. Read also about the Temple and it's location...fasinating. The description of the location of the wall and other buildings and landmarks that existed in that day are there for us to discover. Many are mentioned in other places in the Bible. We can compare and verify. Using all that you can almost pinpoint where the Temple actually was. The significance of the recent discovery of Nehemiah's wall, I think, is going to show us the real location of Herod's Temple or the second Temple... It looks like it may not be where we all currently think it is...as they uncover more of the wall the rocks will speak and their ancient voices will tell us. The irony is that a spring appears to be the key. Waters...Gihon Spring...mentioned again in 2 Chronicles 32:30. I am, by no stretch of the imagination, an expert...just a curious ole fowl...but as I explored I discovered I am not alone. Whole books have been written, some fairly modern and some ancient. Wouldn't that be something! All this bullaballou would have been over the site of an old Roman fort, Fort Antonia...and the site of the Temple Mount is actually located just to the South of it... all these years the Jews may have been worshipping at the western retainning wall of an old Roman Fort. That just may be the reason the the wall was discovered. Lord figured it was time. *** Nehemiah’s Wall Found in Jerusalem November 9, 2007 At a conference in Tel Aviv, an archaeological discovery is unveiled that proves biblical history true. By Stephen Flurry Archaeologists who reject the biblical narrative or who believe the historical account is, at best, grossly exaggerated sometimes point to the wall Nehemiah is said to have built around Jerusalem during the 5th century b.c. and ask why none of its remains have ever been discovered. Now those remains are beginning to turn up. Yesterday, at an archaeological conference at Bar Ilan University near Tel Aviv, Dr. Eilat Mazar told 500 attendees that she had discovered Nehemiah’s wall. The discovery comes, as our regular readers know, just two years after Mazar uncovered a small section of King David’s royal palace. Last winter, during the second phase of her ongoing palace excavation, she uncovered a massive wall on the eastern side of the royal complex, measuring 5 meters in width. Adjacent to the palace wall stood a large stone tower archaeologists believed to be built during the Hasmonean dynasty (142-37 b.c.). Early last summer, a section of that tower, which was built on a steep slope just outside the palace, began to give way, indicating it was on the verge of collapse. And so what started as a simple task of repairing a collapsing tower turned into a six-week dig—and a fascinating new discovery. www.thetrumpet.com/index.php?q=44...8.2664.0.0
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Post by Murph on Dec 2, 2007 17:39:20 GMT -6
When you read Nehemiah 12...the watergate is directly opposite the spring...and the Temple was built on top of the spring. The spring is located about 1000 feet or so to the south of the Dome.
There are no other springs on maps of the city of Jerusalem within a 5 mile radius of the Gihon Spring...it is the only one there.
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Post by Keith on Dec 3, 2007 8:52:03 GMT -6
What's really awesome to me Marilyn is that the Lord is revealing these things now. He's allowing more and more to be discovered as proof of His Word. It's only a matter of time until, I believe, the Ark of the Covenant is brought forth, proving to the world that there WAS a Temple on the Mount regardless of what the Muslim world says...
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Post by Murph on Dec 3, 2007 17:57:00 GMT -6
Once Nehemiah got his "ducks in a row," it didn't take him too awfully long to re-build the wall.
52 days...
Once all this starts to go down...it won't take long either...
If the Jews were to discover the Ark. They would have to keep it secret till all was ready wouldn't they?
I keep thinking about the story of why God struck Uzza dead.
The Temple is not re-built yet so they have no proper place to put it.
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Post by Keith on Dec 3, 2007 21:11:30 GMT -6
If the Jews were to discover the Ark. They would have to keep it secret till all was ready wouldn't they? I keep thinking about the story of why God struck Uzza dead. The Temple is not re-built yet so they have no proper place to put it. I don't think they'd keep it a secret, but use it as leverage to immediately build the Temple. After revealing the Ark as proof of its existence, I believe they'd keep it hidden until the Temple's completion. As for Uzza, he touched the mediator between God and man at the time. But now, Jesus is that mediator (1 Timothy 2:5), so I doubt God would manifest His power through the Ark now as He did then...
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Post by Murph on Dec 3, 2007 21:45:54 GMT -6
I was thinking in terms of mishandling something of God's...there is a way that the Jews are to handle the Ark...it has to be carried just so, with all the trappings and pomp and ceremony, and placed in the Holiest of Holies. They would adhere to that tradition because they don't Reconize Jesus as yet. They appear to be planning to strictly adhere to those rules. That would mean...not moving it till all was in place. Uzza mishandled the Ark much the same way as people mis-handle the Bible today...but the problem is they never touch it...or just sling it around any ole way. They also tend to put God in the cart and they drive, instead of the other way around. I am always verrrrry careful around a car that has a bumper sitcker stating that the Lord is their co-pilot...got the wrong person driving that car...probably headed for a crash...
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Post by Keith on Dec 4, 2007 9:25:19 GMT -6
Oh I'm sure they'd handle the Ark in the manner set forth to do so, but I still don't believe God would manifest His power through it as He did. You have to consider that the fact that the Jews DON'T recognize Jesus is a reason for God to withhold His power through the Ark. The Jews will wonder why it doesn't appear to have the power it once did. I'm sure one of the 144,000 will be more than willing to explain why...
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Post by Murph on Dec 5, 2007 6:58:08 GMT -6
That is the point. It is called the Ark of the Covanant. It is emblematic of two covenants, the OT covenant with the Jews, and the NT Covenant with us, our covering being permanent . Because of it's construction and design and because of the items it contains, and what it represents to us both Jew and Gentile... I believe it still packs a mighty, majestic, and Divine wallop.
At the Epicenter of world conflict today, whether mankind acknowleges it or not, is Israel. Encased in that time bomb is the fuel to ignite a world confligration...Jerusalem, and at the core of that the Temple Mount, and at the core of that the Temple itself...and at the center of that, the Ark and Holiest of Holies, and at the very heart, core, and Epicenter of that is our Savior, Lord Jesus Christ. He is here as He has been since the beginning, and there as He was when He emerged from the Tomb, and there as He rose out of sight that day. He is there now...watching and waiting for the command from God to get up...from His seat on the Right Hand of the Father...
Amen!
Jesus is the epicenter and the Ark with the Commandments, Aaron's Rod the manna from Heaven, and other Items just might be the fuse...
That is my point...I realize not all will understand what my comparrison to Uzza was about. It was a quantum leap...I am guilty of giving you point and then jumping to points beyond and not explainning how I got there...
It all leads back to Jesus...
and I just went all around the Holiest of Holies to get in the door...at the very center is the Ark and Jesus...
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Post by Keith on Dec 5, 2007 9:09:44 GMT -6
I am guilty of giving you point and then jumping to points beyond and not explainning how I got there... Well stop it! My brain can't handle the stress...
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Post by Murph on Dec 5, 2007 15:07:47 GMT -6
I am guilty of giving you point and then jumping to points beyond and not explainning how I got there... Well stop it! My brain can't handle the stress... mine ain't hittin' on much either... meant to hit quote and hit modify by accident... Now I completely forgot what I was goin' to say. ;D
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