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Post by Murph on Feb 27, 2008 17:42:10 GMT -6
Keith said something about this and I have been reading a similar topic on another MB with much interest. Why is it... well got 2 questions... Why is it that preachers today don't teach and preach on the end times? The prophecies? So many people know little to nothing about what the Bible has to say on that subject. Why is it that Christians who at one times acknowleged the end times and talked about them now shy away from them? and talking about them?
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Post by DB on Feb 27, 2008 19:19:18 GMT -6
Keith said something about this and I have been reading a similar topic on another MB with much interest. Why is it... well got 2 questions... Why is it that preachers today don't teach and preach on the end times? The prophecies? So many people know little to nothing about what the Bible has to say on that subject. Why is it that Christians who at one times acknowleged the end times and talked about them now shy away from them? and talking about them? Duck, In my expierence, I was involved in the SBC for nearly 5 years, then moved into the Independent realm and have been there ever since.I was called to fill the pulpits for Presbyterians, Mission houses, "dead churches", also I played the five string banjo in a gospel group where we played in all denominational churches. Friend I have seen some goins on! There can be no question about the modern church( I hold back none ) and it's direction- we've come a long way, away from God. The preachers today ( I do not mean all, God is still calling men to preach) are trained for a specific task. Sadly those tasks include not going against " the grain" and "don't cause any ripples". Fear of no paycheck, mockery, rejection,and ridicule keeps a lot of preachers away from preaching that will upset people. Plus , there are a lot of schools , seminaries, and Bible colleges that have been infiltrated by unbelieving professors. Preachers used to preach the coming of the Lord so earnestly that the listeners would be concerned about their loved ones before they could get out of the service. I 've noticed lately that people just don't like being told that God created this world and all of it belongs to Him, and that He has the right to judge it. They especially don't want to hear that their "free ride" is just about over. If preachers would get back to preaching the Bible and quit worryin' about getting into the heavy tithers "cornflakes", I believe we would see the hand of God move in a mighty way. Why do Christians shy away from the subject? From my short tenure thus far in the ministry, my choices would be: 1. They don't know enough about it. 2. They have little confidence in what they do know. 3. They are afraid they might upset a friend. 4. A lot are too wrapped up in this world, and dread the thought of not having these systems and pleasures in heaven. 5. They don't know where they are going themselves and are trying to avoid conviction. I find myself in a study lately on Sunday and Wed. evenings on this very issue. I get real excited about whats happening in the middle east. I know it will be soon when I shall behold the blessed Lamb of God. At the same time I grieve in my heart for my family who's lost and going to hell. How easy it is on one hand to rejoice at the coming of the Lord, and on the other hand dreading the thought of my daddy, sisters, cousins, etc. --- perishing forever. But brethren, how sweet is the promises of the Lord, that beutiful hand shall wipe those tears from off my face.
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Post by Murph on Feb 27, 2008 19:59:23 GMT -6
It seems that distaste for the truth is a sign of the times in and of itself.
"For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears; And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables." 2 Timothy 4:3-4
and from Jude...
"For there are certain men crept in unawares, who were before of old ordained to this condemnation, ungodly men, turning the grace of our God into lasciviousness, and denying the only Lord God, and our Lord Jesus Christ." 4
There are other passages that say the same thing.
People also seem too interested in books written supposedly about the Bible and don't read the Bible itself.
Am reminded of the Jews when they returned from Babylon...they had forgotten the language and couldn't and didn't read the Five books that Moses wrote...Then one day
"...all the people gathered themselves together as one man into the street that was before the water gate; and they spake unto Ezra the scribe to bring the book of the law of Moses, which the LORD had commanded to Israel.
And Ezra the priest brought the law before the congregation both of men and women, and all that could hear with understanding, upon the first day of the seventh month.
And he read therein before the street that was before the water gate from the morning until midday, before the men and the women, and those that could understand; and the ears of all the people were attentive unto the book of the law.
And Ezra the scribe stood upon a pulpit of wood, which they had made for the purpose; and beside him stood Mattithiah, and Shema, and Anaiah, and Urijah, and Hilkiah, and Maaseiah, on his right hand; and on his left hand, Pedaiah, and Mishael, and Malchiah, and Hashum, and Hashbadana, Zechariah, and Meshullam."
What a collection of the Oracles of God...some known to us and some not...but one day soon we will get to meet them all!
"And Ezra opened the book in the sight of all the people; (for he was above all the people;) and when he opened it, all the people stood up: And Ezra blessed the LORD, the great God. And all the people answered, Amen, Amen, with lifting up their hands: and they bowed their heads, and worshipped the LORD with their faces to the ground." Nehemiah 8:1-6
I never read that passage without tears, crying because of the reverance and respect they showed for the Lord and for His Holy Word.
And crying because that is almost completely gone today except among a few...
Blessed be the Name of the Lord...Amen.
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Post by Murph on Feb 27, 2008 20:05:22 GMT -6
After that they had a hunger for the Word...and they obeyed the Lord and all that He taught them in His Word.
Beautiful passage...that passage from Nehemiah.
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Post by Keith on Feb 28, 2008 9:49:46 GMT -6
Why is it that preachers today don't teach and preach on the end times? The prophecies? So many people know little to nothing about what the Bible has to say on that subject. "For there are certain men crept in unawares, who were before of old ordained to this condemnation, ungodly men, turning the grace of our God into lasciviousness, and denying the only Lord God, and our Lord Jesus Christ." 4 Why is it that Christians who at one times acknowleged the end times and talked about them now shy away from them? and talking about them? from Jude... "For there are certain men crept in unawares, who were before of old ordained to this condemnation, ungodly men, turning the grace of our God into lasciviousness, and denying the only Lord God, and our Lord Jesus Christ." 4Will you STOP answering your own questions?!? ;D Amen to all that by the way...
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Post by Murph on Feb 28, 2008 17:15:30 GMT -6
I'd say not bad for an ole Fowl that doesn't know what she is doing most of the time... Looking around at all that is going on in society it is amazing how it is all moving. People are gradually being conditioned to accept so many things...regulations...having to present three forms of ID to get an ID... New Operators Licences with all your information...and without which you can't board a plane or train...leave or enter the country, won't be long before buses are included and travel between the states. New digital TV before the end of next year...old ones won't work without a converter. Did you know that if you deposit $10,000 or better or transfer it...the Federal Government is notified? If you have ever had your fingerprints taken they are on file in a national registry? People walking and riding around with cell phones connected to their ears...on board computers that track your whereabouts. Google you name...computer will flip up you address, telephone #, and directions to your front door...and computers...my my! The move is on toward people being so programed that they will accept anything...without question and without a objection. Like herd animals to the slaughter, lemmings jumping over a cliff... Gonna stand up on the mountain like Abraham and watch the cities of the Plains go up in smoke. Nothing we can do about it. Just pray Lot gets out in time and that his wife doesn't look back. Yes, had a bad day...frustrated and disgusted. Kin ya tell?
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Post by Murph on Feb 28, 2008 17:19:14 GMT -6
and Lord have mercy on ya if you try to tell them the truf...they tell you you are bad because you make them uncomfortable...
Nuts! If I hear the word tolerant one more time I think I am just gonna spit...
Now ya what me to tell ya what I really think? ;D
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Post by DB on Feb 28, 2008 17:23:12 GMT -6
I'd say not bad for an ole Fowl that doesn't know what she is doing most of the time... Looking around at all that is going on in society it is amazing how it is all moving. People are gradually being conditioned to accept so many things...regulations...having to present three forms of ID to get an ID... New Operators Licences with all your information...and without which you can't board a plane or train...leave or enter the country, won't be long before buses are included and travel between the states. New digital TV before the end of next year...old ones won't work without a converter. Did you know that if you deposit $10,000 or better or transfer it...the Federal Government is notified? If you have ever had your fingerprints taken they are on file in a national registry? People walking and riding around with cell phones connected to their ears...on board computers that track your whereabouts. Google you name...computer will flip up you address, telephone #, and directions to your front door...and computers...my my! The move is on toward people being so programed that they will accept anything...without question and without a objection. Like herd animals to the slaughter, lemmings jumping over a cliff... Gonna stand up on the mountain like Abraham and watch the cities of the Plains go up in smoke. Nothing we can do about it. Just pray Lot gets out in time and that his wife doesn't look back. Yes, had a bad day...frustrated and disgusted. Kin ya tell? I can remember those old movies about Hitler and the SS,, here's the line from those old movies that we'll soon hear in this country......" papers please?".. anybody remember what happened to those folk who did not have their "papers" ?
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Post by Murph on Feb 28, 2008 21:30:09 GMT -6
long ride on a train and short walk to the showers...
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