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Post by Murph on Mar 29, 2014 10:42:22 GMT -6
Am in a discussion with someone about the difference between The Great White Throne Judgment and the Bema Seat Judgment...
How would you explain the difference to him?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 29, 2014 11:16:25 GMT -6
The Bema Seat is for born-again Christians to reward their faithful service, while the White Throne is only for the unsaved rejecters of Christ where the Book of Life will be opened to search for names that are not there . . . with the result being the lake of fire for all eternity.
Either people believe the Bible or they don't . . . the folks you are arguing with are no doubt "wilfully ignorant"
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Post by Murph on Mar 29, 2014 11:23:28 GMT -6
Bible passages are what I was looking for...I know the difference... the gentleman I am talking with doesn't... I already screwed up once by not checking a Bible reference before I posted it to make sure I had the right one...posted 1 Cor. 15 instead of 1 Cor. 3...blew that one...so now either I shut up or put up... and you know me well enough to know I ain't gonna shut up.
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Post by Murph on Mar 29, 2014 11:30:17 GMT -6
I also know people ascribe to as many a 3 different judgments...Great White Throne...Bema Seat...and Judgment of the Nations...
so I know I am treading water on the whole thing...
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Post by Deleted on Mar 29, 2014 12:23:16 GMT -6
"And when the thousand years are expired, Satan shall be loosed out of his prison, And shall go out to deceive the nations which are in the four quarters of the earth, Gog and Magog, to gather them together to battle: the number of whom is as the sand of the sea. And they went up on the breadth of the earth, and compassed the camp of the saints about, and the beloved city: and fire came down from God out of heaven, and devoured them. And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet are, and shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever. And I saw a great white throne, and him that sat on it, from whose face the earth and the heaven fled away; and there was found no place for them. And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and another book was opened, which is the book of life: and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works. And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works. And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death. And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire" (Revelation 20:7-15).
Now, a person that refuses to see the truth of the Word is it's simple presentation will find any number of reasons to deny the meaning of this passage. This is why I am glad that I can have a simple childlike faith that says "God said it, I Believe It! and it don't matter who doesn't."
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Post by Deleted on Mar 29, 2014 12:27:31 GMT -6
The very first sentence here proves that it happens after the millennium, which I bet your adversary also rejects. If this is not a given, none that comes after it will matter to them - they are already decided.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 29, 2014 12:29:01 GMT -6
Sure, the nations will be judged but that it based upon how they treated Israel . . . has nothing to do with the central question of saved versus lost.
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Post by Murph on Mar 29, 2014 14:21:56 GMT -6
just running the gannet of what some people believe...
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Post by Deleted on Mar 29, 2014 16:49:31 GMT -6
People are idiots . . . that's why America is in the shape it is in now. I remember back in the Left Behind Message Board days where we tried to warn people that the laxness of true biblical doctrine was going to make it possible for us to go under as a nation, and we were scoffed at, ridiculed and banned on more than one occasion. Now these things are happening and all we here now is that we are racists and it is all George Bush's fault.
This country deserves to be where it is now . . . and worse!
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Post by Murph on Mar 29, 2014 16:51:56 GMT -6
By the time I got back to that discussion...other people had taken up the battle and were trying to straighten this guy out...
was happy to see it...
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Post by Murph on Mar 29, 2014 16:52:46 GMT -6
but it never hurts to give our Bible brains a workout...sharpen swords.
Thanks for your help...knew I could count on you.
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