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Post by veterinarian on Mar 10, 2010 15:50:49 GMT -6
What, exactly, does the Bible say about people choosing to end their own lives? I came across a discussion about people choosing euthanasia (it is now legal in several states in the US) on a veterinary website. Veterinarians are now beginning to deal with people's pets when the people choose to end their own lives.
I personally find the idea creepy sick. Really creepy sick.
So what are some verses from the Bible about this subject?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 10, 2010 16:04:27 GMT -6
"Thou shalt not kill" immediately comes to mind.
This is speaking of murder by an individual of another (or of self) - not the corporate justifiable killing done during wartime or state-sanctioned execution of a lawful sentence based upon a legal finding of guilt.
I don't rightly know if there are others that speak on this issue.
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Post by veterinarian on Mar 10, 2010 16:11:24 GMT -6
The concept of ending your own life by choosing assisted suicide seems so selfish to me; these people do not seem to care how their death will affect those around them, they are only concerned about how they feel at a given moment.
I read several (sick to me!) positive comments regarding how much "courage" it takes to choose assisted suicide.
I thought that it takes more courage to endure suffering than it does to run away from the suffering.
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Post by Keith on Mar 10, 2010 16:15:09 GMT -6
" Thou shalt not kill" immediately comes to mind. This is speaking of murder by an individual of another (or of self) - not the corporate justifiable killing done during wartime or state-sanctioned execution of a lawful sentence based upon a legal finding of guilt. Amen Virgil, that's it.
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Post by Murph on Mar 11, 2010 8:44:47 GMT -6
Not till you have walked a mile in their shoes so the saying goes. There was a time in my life that I thought about suicide and came really close. I can see how a person can get so low in their lives that suicide seems the only viable way out. This happens to saved and unsaved alike.
I am not saying it is right and don't believe for one mement that it is. What I am saying is that a person in that kind of pain isn't thinking about what is right only looking for a release from the pain or a release from being a burden to family and a feeling of uselessness.
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Post by Keith on Mar 11, 2010 8:53:43 GMT -6
The Lord knows their pain so we need to try to let them know that...to hold them close and love them. And show them in His Word that it's wrong, that He wants them for His service in life, not death. "Knowing that of the Lord ye shall receive the reward of the inheritance: for ye serve the Lord Christ." (Colossians 3:24)
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Post by Murph on Mar 11, 2010 8:58:48 GMT -6
I need to stop typing a post and then correcting it. Other folks end up quoting something that is no longer there. Words of comfort, love and peace, it is what we need to give. Doesn't always work...over my years as a counselor there have been a few where it wasn't enough. But we try in the Lord's name.
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Post by Murph on Mar 11, 2010 9:09:27 GMT -6
"This I recall to my mind, therefore have I hope.
It is of the LORD'S mercies that we are not consumed, because his compassions fail not.
They are new every morning: great is thy faithfulness.
The LORD is my portion, saith my soul; therefore will I hope in him.
The LORD is good unto them that wait for him, to the soul that seeketh him.
It is good that a man should both hope and quietly wait for the salvation of the LORD... " Lamentations 3:21-26 This has brought me peace...in dark times. Will leave it here for others who need to know and will pray for them.
In the Lord's Name, Amen.
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Post by Keith on Mar 11, 2010 11:01:20 GMT -6
Amen.
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Post by veterinarian on Mar 12, 2010 14:04:48 GMT -6
"This I recall to my mind, therefore have I hope.
It is of the LORD'S mercies that we are not consumed, because his compassions fail not.
They are new every morning: great is thy faithfulness.
The LORD is my portion, saith my soul; therefore will I hope in him.
The LORD is good unto them that wait for him, to the soul that seeketh him.
It is good that a man should both hope and quietly wait for the salvation of the LORD... " Lamentations 3:21-26 This has brought me peace...in dark times. Will leave it here for others who need to know and will pray for them.
In the Lord's Name, Amen. Amen! Forgive me for sounding judgemental. I have never been in a situation where ending my life even occurred to my mind. What I meant to say was this: suicide, in any form or for any reason, just seems very wrong to me. I have thought about this; I have come to the conclusion that committing suicide is, to me, the equivalent of telling God that He is mistaken. (I don't have the guts to even think that one!) To me, if you kill yourself through active participation or through benign neglect, you are expressing a disbelief in God.
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Post by veterinarian on Mar 12, 2010 14:11:28 GMT -6
It is amazing to me how many of my colleagues not only accept assisted suicide, but are strong supporters. They won't admit their stance to the rest of the world, but they believe in death.
That's the way I see it: you are believing that death does more for you and those around you than God can/will perform.
Of course, if you believe that people are no more than a step on the evolutionary scale, then I should not be surprised that you see people through the same "goggles" as you do animals.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 12, 2010 14:39:46 GMT -6
It is amazing to me how many of my colleagues not only accept assisted suicide, but are strong supporters. They won't admit their stance to the rest of the world, but they believe in death. That's the way I see it: you are believing that death does more for you and those around you than God can/will perform. Of course, if you believe that people are no more than a step on the evolutionary scale, then I should not be surprised that you see people through the same "goggles" as you do animals. My dentist tried to argue that old people that are strapped to gurnees ought to be allowed to die because of the great cost to keep them alive. He argued that it is wrong to expect that the family should have to incur the expense. I find it amazing how they can mask murder in the guise of human caring (not unlike how planned parenthood try to use sympathy for the mother as a reason for abortion). Anyway, here is the argument in a nutshell as I see it. 1. If the person that shoulld be euthanized is unsaved - we are consigning them to an eternity of hell - while as long as there is breath and life there is hope for them to be reconciled to God. Once someone is "put to sleep like a common animal", while the family thinks they are doing them a great kindness - they will have no idea how much that loved one is now cursing them in the bowels of hell. 2. If the person to be medically terminated is a believer - that person will not wish to die, knowing that their suffering are only for a short time compared to their glories of eternity with the Lord, and they are praying that God will use them as a testmony to the medical staff and their lost loved ones that God is able to let them use their sickness as a tool of witness to others that one is able to find grace even in the midst of pain.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 12, 2010 16:42:58 GMT -6
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Post by veterinarian on Mar 13, 2010 10:39:48 GMT -6
;D
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